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True Story: The Samwer Brothers are now Cloning Amazon

Please find updates at the end of the article:

Oops, they did it again. TechBerlin found out that the notorious Samwer brothers just launched a new site in Southeast Asia called Lazada. According to a TechBerlin source the company is headquartered in Singapore and geared towards countries like Indonesia, Malaysia, Philippines, Singapore, Thailand and Taiwan. Amazon currently has no presence in these countries. 

In good old photo copying manner the Samwer brothers decided to take on the biggest e-commerce company on the planet, cloning Amazon down to the last pixel just like they have previously done with other US startups like Fab , Pinterest (Samwer Version), Airbnb (Samwer Version) or Groupon (Samwer Version). Interestingly enough, Lazada copied Amazon’s old design. According to TechBerlin sources the company is led by ex McKinsey man Maximilian Bittner. TechBerlin has contacted Maximilian as well as Amazon for a statement. 

Lazada’s Design is a one-to-one copy of the old Amazon design

This time the Samwer brothers are attacking one of the biggest companies in the world and it will be interesting to see how that will play out. Will Amazon give in and buy them in the end, just like Groupon or Ebay have done in the past? What do you think?

Update 1: TechBerlin has still not received an official statement from Rocket Internet.

Update 2: Lazada changed their logo overnight. When posting this article yesterday, the logo still had the Amazon style orange curve. It now features a shopping cart instead. 

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Update 3: Caroline Winter from BusinessWeek told TechBerlin today that Oliver Samwer confirmed Lazada’s HQ location (Singapore) with her, thereby verifying what TechBerlin had originally reported. Samwer described Lazada as an “early stage startup focusing on consumer electronics.” The BusinessWeek article was updated accordingly. 

Update 4: Apparently Lazada is also available in Egypt and the Gulf States

Update 5: The name of the site was changed from Lazada to Mizado. The logo was changed again. 

by Nikolas Woischnik

The Jason Calacanis Rant against the Samwer Brothers and German Copying on TWiST Berlin

After acknowledging the innovative new startup spirit in Berlin (“this is a fiery group”) during the TWiST Berlin show, the host Jason Calacanis starts a rant against the Samwer Brothers and how they had ruined the image of the German startup landscape.

He said that Germany was getting a “bad name” because of the Samwer brothers whom he referred to as “lying and cheating … photocopying thieves”. According to Jason people around the world started to believe that Germans are not original thinkers and that this was not true! He asked the audience to “boo and hiss” at the Samwers whenever someone runs into them and to convince one’s friends to not work for them. 

The audience loudly cheered in consent! It seemed that finally someone with broad international reach called out what many Berliners think. 

by Nikolas Woischnik

Yuri Milner passes on Samwer investment due to “Rude” Biz Style

It seems that the reputation of the Samwer brothers is not just crumbling among their staff or being subjected to bitter satire these days. Big international players are also starting to turn their back on the trio that is said to leave ethics off the table when doing business. Focus, one of the leading magazines in Germany reported that Russian Billionaire investor Yuri Milner (Twitter, Groupon, Zynga, Facebook) opted out of investing into Samwer’s new fund. According to Focus, Milner and other investors do not want to be associated with the “rude leadership style” of the German clone factoryRocket Internet is said to raise state funds from the Abu Dhabi Investment Authority and Temasek Holding of Singapore instead. #samwerbashing 


Butcher vs. Samwer: The audience Looses

 It was a draw. An undecided  battle between two new media  leaders. During Idea!Lab on  Friday, TechCrunch  journalist Mike Butcher was  promised an interview  with Oliver Samwer (Rocket  Internet), but in the end it never  happened, with Samwer walking  out of the “meeting”. To put it  more precise: Butcher and S  Samwer couldn’t agree on the  term sheet for the interview.  (Btw: Usually when meeting and  negotiating with Oliver Samwer  a term sheet is typed on the  spot and a notary appointment  arranged within hours so that  young founders don’t even get  the chance to pass it by a lawyer. #samwerbashing.) In this case both parties parted before any agreement was made. 

Both men sure had valid points to their argument. However, while both certainly did not put on their best performance, in the end it was the audience that ended being the biggest looser. 

I am always under the assumption that an interview is important for both parties involved. The interviewee gets some promotion for his/her company and persona and can present a carefully crafted story to the outside world. Me, as a journalist, I get a decent story for my channel as long as I am allowed to ask everything I want. I would think that Butcher and Samwer work under the same principals. 

But in this case both made mistakes. While Samwer’s communication team conveyed a fixed interview date, there seems to have not been any interest on Samwer’s side. Butcher never got a personal confirmation from Samwer himself which should have left him in doubt and trade in the depressing scene of an early morning low cost airline for a long sleep in and some fresh bakery treats from Paul. Pubs open early in London, too, right? Or do they just close early? :-)     

Another mistake of Butcher was to ask Samwer questions about topics that he obviously cannot answer due to the SEC quiet period. Any journalist should know that. This must have confirmed Oliver Samwer’s false belief that TechCrunch lacks professionalism. 

Samwer on the other is very naive if he thinks he can ignore the blogosphere. He is an extremely successful entrepreneur but widely regarded as a copy cat and thief. Even if that does not hurt his own feelings, it sure is uncomfortable for the thousands of people who are employed by him. I have heard this from various people who work for Rocket companies again and again: They believe that his personal image hurts the image of the portfolio companies. This interview could have offered a good platform for him to explain his business tactics and answer to those who portray him as an unethical, morally condemnable business man.  

Anyway, we all want a new interview battle on fair grounds. Do the contestants look for a neutral location? The Friday at Six Radio Show is more then happy to offer both a seat at the table. Are you both up for taking central stage?

We could have the Xhill Stumpers entertain the crowd between individual interview rounds, some beer, popcorn and an audience of aspiring young entrepreneurs. Whatcha say? 

Samwer needs to realize that if he goes on avoiding the interview, the audience will never be able to pick a winner. And he sure must be interested in #winning, DUH!  

by Derk Marseille 

#fickdichberlin

It all started when well respected Jeff Jarvis raised his concerns about the politics in Washington in a recent tweet:


To offload the frustrations many Americans feel about the current economic situation and the unwillingness to compromise among Republicans in the debt ceiling debate to help save the country from financial chaos, Jarvis invited his Twitter followers (76k!) to pass on a twitter chant that said “Fuck You Washington”. 

Soon after someone created the hashtag #fuckyouwashington and the whole thing gained great momentum. You can find a current stream of #fuckyouwashington tweets here

Enters Germany 

Well known for its inclination to copy the US in everything it did not take long for Germans to tweet under the directly translated hashtag #fickdichberlin

What to think of it? Whereas the initiative to raise one’s voice and openly address important issues on Twitter or elsewhere is a noble cause, the copy cat execution makes me wonder whether it was the Samwers who started the hashtag. That would imply they were on Twitter though, which they are not of course. They are on StudiVZ and Frazr. Hey, that makes me think (hint: irony), we could hashtag all those Samwer jokes and critiques as #samwerbash. Gründerszene, are you in? :-) 

Needless to say that the translation of “fuck you” sounds much worse in German, a language that has no culture in swearing whatsoever. Germans don’t use “ficken” in an adjectival form (as in “I need a fucking drink”) nor do we use it as a descriptive superlative (as in “This site is fucking great”). Hell, we don’t even have an official society that promotes linguistic appreciation of the word. Hence, it is used very little outside the bedroom. 

by Nikolas Woischnik 

How to optimize your marketing spend

In Germany, the Samwer brothers have long been known for their aggressive marketing. With Groupon buying Samwer’s Citydeal last summer and placing all international expansion in the brothers’ hands (the international HQ of Groupon is in Berlin!), word of the Samwer’s unrivaled execution has spread abroad.

Since most of their incubated companies are consumer facing businesses in young, competitive markets, marketing optimization is a key priority. Above is an interesting talk on marketing performance across multiple channels by Florian Heinemann from Rocket Internet, the Samwer incubator that gave birth to startups lile Zalando, eDarling or CityDeal/Groupon.  

Update: TechCrunch writes on June 10th that Samwers are no longer running international operations.

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